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Excellent patient education!! learn by example! May I suggest that your next post is a guidance test for newbies in using AI for solving health problems

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What do you mean by a guidance test? Was that a typo?

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yes Dave! meant guidance text.

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Some of us are thinking about that. (It doesn't exist yet.) You're welcome to send your thoughts on what it should contain!

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Dave, thank you for sharing Sue's story. I'm glad to hear she is doing better! I’d love to know how she prompted the AI—did she start with a Google search before using ChatGPT?

P.s.: I hope she gets her $350 copay refunded.

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These stories are so important...Very grateful to you and the #PatientsUseAI community for gathering and sharing.

Can Susan share what prompts she used to reach the information that was most meaningful and actionable? Perhaps that can be a part of future posts to help others get a head start on optimal prompting (what didn't work, what ultimately did)?

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I know from side conversations that being newbies, they didn't do anything fancy. But I'll see if we can dig out what they did.

And I absolutely agree that it's time to start teaching each other how to do it!

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I googled teeth cleaning & face drooping and this is the first thing that popped up. Glad they figured it, but AI wasn’t needed. Bigger issue is the ER not knowing straight away. I suspect she saw an intern or resident.

Separately AI is incredibly harmful to the environment. The amount of water it uses is staggering.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27939042/

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Erica, thank you for coming here to continue this, from LinkedIn, while I was on vacation. (I'm on the plane home, as I write this.)

You bring up two points. The first is that perhaps AI wasn't necessary in this situation - just googling might have sufficed. As you probably know, I've always been all for googling; I can't speak for why they didn't; or maybe they did and it wasn't enough. I don't know.

But It's not hard to find cases where mere googling isn't enough, as I imagine you'll agree.

Your second point is AI's energy consumption. For that I'll turn to Bart DeWitte of Hippo AI Foundation, which argues for true open-source AI. In May he told me about open-source tools he uses that consume immensely less power. I'll see if I can get him to come join this discussion.

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Dave, your posts about AI are wonderful! I remember distinctly an interview on television with a physician, when chat GPT was starting to become "a thing." She was asked if she was afraid of AI. She said, confidently (smugly, actually!) "Oh no, AI is only correct 60% of the time." She left it at that, and the interviewer smiled in agreement with her, or, out of respect for her elevated position! I remember thinking, "This is not true. I know doctors who are correct 0% to 30% of the time, and don't care about their patients!" Again, Dave, thanks for showing the other side. PS, I use Chat GPT all the time, both for medical information and for other information. What do you think of perplexity.ai? A friend of mine prefers that to chat GPT.

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Julia, I don't know how I missed this comment six weeks ago. We'd love to hear some examples of what prompts you've used! dave@epatientdave.com if you want.

I just started playing with Perplexity - haven't used it much. @Hugo Campos is the wizard of different LLMs in the #PatientsUseAI world - he literally uses one AI to create better prompts for him to feed to another one!

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